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PostSubject: new " power"stall   Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:34 pm

okay i want the team something like this



3 walls

1 dual
1 DEF
1 SPDEF

most likely cress for dual going to try and make her a clamminder ad redo my team without thunderwave but i need something to help my stall this is where i need ome real help big time

spirtomb
dusclops ( tend to take one pokemon out sometimes 2 but never 3 )
sableye ( i got nothing )


for DEF im thinking my old skar it's perfect as is so if you agree just ignore this one there may be better DEF walls who can do more harm then skar i feel

gliscor super wall but lacks the wirlwind i rely on so much

bronzong great typeing all i got and powerfully gyro ball no good heal moves however



for SP im thinking my chansey should work but seeing as i want 1 wisher / healbell i want a new SP wall


only ones i can think of off my head are


celebi as it can help alot
espeon not the best but it has alot of uses
mew if i try hard enough

next i want a wisher and heal beller but im useing chansey so forget this point

last 2 should be walls who can turn into sweepers only ones i know are cress , mew , shuckle ( rarely but i done it 2 times ) , wobbuffet ( useing a combo of chansey + wish and counter / coat ) , snorlax ,volcarona and scafty


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PostSubject: Re: new " power"stall   Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:40 pm

i should try to find a good spinner who can fight for once but the only one ik is uber and the other useless 9 times out of 10
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PostSubject: Re: new " power"stall   Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:04 pm

Well for the walls you can either use something like Skarmory or Chansey(classic combo) or a Cressalia and Chansey. I'd prefer Skarmory and Chansey just for the entry hazard and whirlwind support. Of course this is where the difficult part comes in. Adding Cressalia takes care of Terrakion and things like SD Lucario put adds a major Genesect weakness,which is a major threat to any team. Reliable spinners are pretty difficult to throw in as they only add to the Genesect weakness,so Forretress,Starmie,etc are not the best choice. I'd rather just place a defensive Espeon on the team then deal with a spinner. For a spnblocker Jellicent or Dusclops are your best bets,either one should work fine. Addin something like a Stealth Rocks / Thunder Wave(Body Slam) / Iron Head / Ice(Fire) Punch Jirachi can deal with some things to an extent. Finally for a tank you can try Scrafty as it and Jirachi work semi wel together or Recover / Calm Mind / Psyshock / Dragon Pulse Latias may work too

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PostSubject: Re: new " power"stall   Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:13 pm

im not sure jirachi being the only thunderwaver is a good idea jirachi loses too much HP to be usefully thunder wave + sub

my jirachi tend to lose 200-300 in a single hit thats the only thing i worry about
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PostSubject: Re: new " power"stall   Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:53 pm

Chansey and Jirachi can be the main parahaxers seeing as stall teams are usually slow.

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PostSubject: Re: new " power"stall   Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:05 pm

true thunderwave FTW
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